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Ea going to screw up or improve mass effect? Yes or no?
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I want a general view of the opinions here, I am a mass effect fan yes  I have seen the other reviews, some believe they will screw up, some don't, either way good luck bioware!! Edit: With trailer shown at e3, it appears nothing has gone wrong, me2 has not derailed and the mass effect series is still reigning best scifi fps/rpg of all time But I'm gonna keep the poll shown to show what the results were, most of you were correct, but a final is to play the actual game, which is coming early 2010(January most likely) Edit 2: It seems the poll deleted accidentally, I'll repost the results: Mass effect is still going to be good: 60 Ea going to screw up mass effect: 40 Edit Omega: ME2 Was made by bioware as well, ea did a little but didn't change anything, so bioware was practically in full development, ea a little support and publisher.
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I am not a Mass effect fan so I don't know how much my opinion counts. EA has done some good work. History proves that hard core fans of a series hate any drastic change even if it actually improves the game.
Hard core fans will probably see anything they do as a screw up while other people will see it as an improvement. Developers and publishers are in business and want to make a profit so they go for what they think will have the widest appeal.
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I think EA will mess up Mass Effect 2, because they did so on one of my favorite series of games, Command and Conquer, after getting it from Westwood, Command and Conqer has been going down hill... Especially with their Red Alert 3 expansion...
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Ultimately, any great gaming studio which gets bought by EA will result in sequels to their games being washed down, standardised versions, more closely resembling every other EA title of that genre than the more unique image created by the original game studio. Otellino wrote: I think EA will mess up Mass Effect 2, because they did so on one of my favorite series of games, Command and Conquer, after getting it from Westwood, Command and Conqer has been going down hill... Especially with their Red Alert 3 expansion... C&C Generals was terrible, RA 3 (which I'm playing now) is ghastly. Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath however I feel were very much in-line with the C&C universe. Though I don't like some of the changes (replacing Tiberium trees with Tiberium ground holes, restricting tiberium growth to specified areas around the tiberium ground holes instead of allowing it to engulf the entire map if left unchecked...) I still very much enjoyed TW and considered it to be a good sequel to TS. It helped that they kept Joseph Kucan to play Kane too. RA3 meanwhile is completely ruined by forcing co-op into the entire single-player campaign, substituting an online player with an AI-controlled player if you don't want to play online. Also too much emphasis was placed on water-related combat, in my opinion. The graphics are too bright and clean, they remind me of Sim City and The Sims (once from Maxis, now titles owned by EA) rather than C&C. The special powers are totally un-C&Cish, they're more reminiscent of LoTR: Battle for Middle-earth (from EA). EA staff have actually been quoted as saying that they put a lot of effort into showing up the silliness of the funnier units (similar sort of humour found in EA's Sims games), which means they're turning the series into a joke. So yes, they'll mess up Mass Effect 2. I don't even know Mass Effect, but I'm certain that if EA are making no. 2, it will be much more like other games created by EA in the same genre than like the original Mass Effect.
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Vorians wrote: Ultimately, any great gaming studio which gets bought by EA will result in sequels to their games being washed down, standardised versions, more closely resembling every other EA title of that genre than the more unique image created by the original game studio. Otellino wrote: I think EA will mess up Mass Effect 2, because they did so on one of my favorite series of games, Command and Conquer, after getting it from Westwood, Command and Conqer has been going down hill... Especially with their Red Alert 3 expansion... C&C Generals was terrible, RA 3 (which I'm playing now) is ghastly. Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath however I feel were very much in-line with the C&C universe. Though I don't like some of the changes (replacing Tiberium trees with Tiberium ground holes, restricting tiberium growth to specified areas around the tiberium ground holes instead of allowing it to engulf the entire map if left unchecked...) I still very much enjoyed TW and considered it to be a good sequel to TS. It helped that they kept Joseph Kucan to play Kane too. RA3 meanwhile is completely ruined by forcing co-op into the entire single-player campaign, substituting an online player with an AI-controlled player if you don't want to play online. Also too much emphasis was placed on water-related combat, in my opinion. The graphics are too bright and clean, they remind me of Sim City and The Sims (once from Maxis, now titles owned by EA) rather than C&C. The special powers are totally un-C&Cish, they're more reminiscent of LoTR: Battle for Middle-earth (from EA). EA staff have actually been quoted as saying that they put a lot of effort into showing up the silliness of the funnier units (similar sort of humour found in EA's Sims games), which means they're turning the series into a joke. So yes, they'll mess up Mass Effect 2. I don't even know Mass Effect, but I'm certain that if EA are making no. 2, it will be much more like other games created by EA in the same genre than like the original Mass Effect. That is the thing, EA thank god does not have creators liscenses for mass effect, they are only going to be producing the game, thanks to microsoft, bioware is going to be making the game guys not ea, MICROSOFT HAS THE DEVELOPERS LISCENSE, SO THEY ARE ENTITLED TO CHOOSE WHO MAKES WHAT SEQUEL, so mass effect isn't ruined, sry for not stating that earlier, but expect a few changes, im pretty sure some things will change. Btw did not know westwood owned cnc before. What i really honestly hated about ea was the childness in the scenes, i mean cmon, if your gonna make a time machine, do it right, make it look like it took over 70 years to create, not any plasma rods flying in the air and an egg shell for the machine XD The forced coop ruined it as well, that should have been a choice, not a force. and 50 units only? Please Although, i did enjoy playing it somehow, it was fun while it lasted, i found a way to rid the dissapointments from the game. My comments on ra3
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I quite Enjoyed RA3(mainly for the balenced sides) also I think they were trying to make each CNC game series more unique(im alittle mixed with the Texture change but I think there trying to keep inline with RA2(which did ahve silly over the top units) Though the expansion pack was looks rather crappy but hey if soneone enjoys alot single player it mght be ok
Generals was boring, sjut found it boring nothing much
CNC3 im rather mixed it was good but felt as if loads of stuff was left out
like the mutants(they al decided to run away is a pathetic way to move there story) could kept Visroids around the feilds and the tiberium feind would been cool Story was fairly well planned out
the scrin faction had a fair ammount of its units torn out from other things(Tripods and Motherships from War of the worlds and and Independace day)
I was hopeing in Kanes wrath that they added something more then jut that crappy RISK like game like what TS had about random Ion storms appearing and amybe add the tiberium vein hole things
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Ea will screw up the game, just like how they screw up any new game licenses that they purchase, Bioware is unfortunately screwed....
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Doombuggie41 wrote: Ea will screw up the game, just like how they screw up any new game licenses that they purchase, Bioware is unfortunately screwed.... Remember, microsoft holds the developer's liscense, so this leaves ea out of it, nothing more than simple publishing because microsoft has the descision if they want to make it, or if they want bioware to make it so this is one thing microsoft did that was good, protect mass effect's future, although if they sell the liscense to ea I will be very very pissed at them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_2See I found an article about it, but wikipedia says it already anyways, it says the developer is bioware, and ea is only publishing it.
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well, mass effect is well enough into production already that it's not like EA could mess it up even if they wanted to. Bioware, the pioneer of such games as Mass Effect, will still maintain most of the power when it comes to how the game is going to turn out, and I believe it's going to turn out great. Mass Effect 2 for PC For the Win!
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Well, if Bioware is making ME2, then it will be awesome!, just have a look at Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, and other RPG games they made, not to mention, Star Wars: The Old Republic, in the making from Bioware. Bioware, i think, is one of the best game makers.
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